If you want to understand where it all began, I suggest you read THIS first.

If you don't know what a port is, I suggest that you read THIS.

My opinion is that video games can sometimes be very different from one port to another. I mentionned a couple of examples ( see in the first link ). Like I said, some games can be quite different from one another. Some have DLCs other versions don't. Some contain more glitches than others.

There are also various remastered (HD) versions of games. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time was initially released on Nintendo 64, but there is also a newer version which was made for the Nintendo 3D. It's the same core game, but with many different elements. The same can be said for a vast number of remastered games, which are part of some new kind of trend no one can deny.

The problem is that many of these games keep the same title whilst offering different content.

There are also games that are caught in between two generations. One game can be released on an older console ( ex: PS3 ) AND on a newer console ( ex: PS4 ). The game remains the same, but with a number of differences; frame rate, resolution, depth of graphics, loading times...

Right now, OpiWiki takes the "original" game and mixes all versions together. So, when you vote for a game you've played on PlayStation, you also vote for the Xbox or PC version even though you haven't played it.

What I'm suggesting is that we completely revamp the video game items (pages), perhaps to the point of resetting the current ranking votes for all games which have been ported to at least one other platform. I'd like to see an item for each port. For example, right now we have

opi.wiki/item/The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim

I would like to do:

opi.wiki/item/The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim(PC)
opi.wiki/item/The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim(PS3)
opi.wiki/item/The-Elder-Scrolls-V-Skyrim(Xbox360)

This way, we could vote for the version we've truly played. In my opinion, the rankings would be more accurate. Of course, all ports would still compete in opi.wiki/ranking/video_games

I know this is kinda crappy for all the people who have contributed to creating and improving the current, existing video game items. So, as I am suggesting this idea, I'm also offering my assistance. As you may know, I've already made a bunch of items. If my idea is approved, I'll focus on (re)creating video game items.

I know Wikipedia is often used as basis for OpiWiki's system and that a video game has only one article on Wikipedia, but as you may know, they also show review notes/percentages for each port and they are not aggregated in any way. Most video game websites have pages dedicated for each port. Same for Metacritic.

I think only video games should get this "special" treatment.

I think it's important to do this right now before it's too late. OpiWiki is still in its early stages so it's better to fix this as soon as possible if we can.

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Oct 29, 2015

This could possibly create redundant-looking rankings (not to mention data):

Best video games of all time:

  1. Skyrim (PC)
  2. Skyrim (PlayStation)
  3. Skyrim (Xbox)
  4. Fallout 4 (PC)
  5. Fallout 4 (PlayStation)
  6. Fallout 4 (Xbox), etc.
So I'm definitely not for it. However, as I mentioned here, it's possible to solve this using our ranking system. This would require all rating areas (PC game, Xbox game, etc.) to be on one page, so it would reduce redundant data as well. If we go for this idea, it's the way to go. Here's a better explanation of how it would look like; we would have to use the group best ranking (opi.wiki/help/ranking#b). In practice:

Tetris: 8 as PC game, 6 as PS game, 4 as Xbox game

The group best ranking (video games in our example) takes the best rating only. So, in the video games ranking Tetris would go with 8. It would also be possible to use the group average ranking (that would've given Tetris a 6), but I think taking the best rating is a better idea.

Having said that, I'm not sure about this idea in general. I'll give it a thought and cast my vote later.

Now, games that are remastered/enhanced/etc. should definitely be added as separate items. If they're named the same, the remastered edition should have an additional info set (e.g. (remastered edition)). Not as the name info, but as a part of the title.

Update: After giving this structure a consideration, I think the idea is good. It seems that we all agree, and as X said, there's nothing to wait for. Some changes will be required, but they shouldn't be drastic. I also need to write a new function that will help us to handle the changes. When it's done, I'll let you know via PM and we'll start.

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Oct 30, 2015

Alright, when you are ready, tell me all the details and I'll work on giving OpiWiki a solid video game database. :P

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Nov 1, 2015

Ok, thinking about it a little longer, it's not that simple. First, what's for sure:

1. Rating games separately under each platform is useful and this option will be there.
2. It will be possible on a single item page. Allowing 1 game to have multiple representatives in the best video games of all time ranking would be unfair and it would add redundant-looking data to the rank.

So far, so good. "best (...) games on [platform]" rankings will be beautiful and 100% accurate. The only issue left is the best video games of all time ranking (all platforms).

Tetris: 8 as PC game, 6 as PS game, 4 as Xbox game

Option best: Tetris is ranked 8 in the ranking
Option average: Tetris is ranked 6 in the ranking

Option best seemed to be better, but there's a downside – it makes the opinions of some of the users irrelevant. In our example, users who played Tetris on PS or Xbox + not on PC are excluded. It seems unfair and that's why we'll go with the average option.

Is option average perfect? No. For example, if Skyrim is in fact much worse under PS, I don't think it will be 100% fair to give it the average rating. On the other hand, we didn't push the developers to publish Skyrim on PS under the same brand name.

Still, we will have the best rankings (in terms of a system) around the net, so it's not that bad. In the future we will be seeking perfection by improving the system just for this complex issue. The solution is already in my mind, but it will require some work and that's in some time to come.

I'll send you a PM soon (today hopefully).

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Oct 29, 2015

This is a great idea, to simply list different rankings for different ports, but not create different pages. Seconded.

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Oct 31, 2015

The maxim should be, "Only when the different port had a major impact on gaming or had important differences".

For example: Street Fighter II on the SNES was very important, even though it was nowhere near arcade-perfect. Ditto for Final Fight.

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